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Tuesday, June 24, 2008

My "I HATE the Hulk" rant.

I haven't seen the new Hulk movie yet and I have no real interest in doing so no matter how good it is. For that matter, I've never seen the Ang Lee/Eric Bana one either. Mostly because I've never liked the character and in his post here Jim Smith kind of touches onto why.

Now I will admit, I've only read a fraction of the Hulk comics most people have. But all I really remember is seeing this guy feeling sorry for himself, losing it, and attacking his friends. All the fucking time. Occasionally massive property damage insues.

And I'm sorry, I think a superhero is allowed maybe ONE time where their powers go crazy and hurt/kill innocent people before I start getting annoyed. Well, to be fair, it's one thing if they're taking genuine precautions to try to avoid it happening again, but at least in the comics I read, Bruce Banner doesn't do that.

Honestly, it's to the point that I think if someone dies in one of the Hulk's rampages, Bruce Banner should be charged for 2nd Degree Murder. (I'm making the assumption here that people have actually died during a Hulk rampage, mostly because I can't truly conceive of a way they WOULDN'T at some point. Feel free to call me on that lack of imagination. :-)) Because he KNOWS what will inevitably happen and almost never takes any real precautions in the comic book equivalent of driving drunk in car, speeding, in reverse, through a parade of small children. It goes beyond involutary manslaughter at this point. There's a blatant and obscene disregard for human rights there!

There's a point in which a person's individual rights to life and freedom have to be weighed against all of the innocent people he's willfully and knowingly endangering. Rights have limits. A man can kill another in self defense, but the law doesn't recognize the right to take the life of an innocent person to save your own. If someone is holding a gun to your head, tells you to kill that guy over there, and you do, you will be criminally charged. A man can decide to blow up a bridge that he built and owns, on his property, but not when he has reason to know that someone is crossing over it at that very moment. I think Bruce Banner's crossed that line a long time ago. He KNOWS what he's capable of doing as the Hulk. He KNOWS that people have been hurt and possibly died before. He has been willfully choosing his own freedom and self-interest over peoples' lives.

And even if you allow for the defense that he's not in his right mind...homicidally insane people are still LOCKED UP.

Honestly, I have to admit, and I may sound evil for saying this, I'm not sure sending him into space was the wrong thing to do. Morally questionable to say the least. Probably out of character for most of the folks that decided it, sure. But the wrong decision? I don't know. It's certainly very extreme. And nearly inhumanly cruel. But I do believe that the Hulk should have been stopped a long time ago. And if Bruce Banner isn't making a serious attempt to do so, then maybe someone else has to. I don't know if it's a decision that I could make, personally, but I understand it.

Maybe there's some spectacular Hulk run or series out there that manages to redeem the previously mentioned aspects of the character to the point where I would be able to tolerate him. But until I ever stumble across that mythical series, I have to say, I think Bruce Banner's at least as much of a villain as, say, Two Face is. And honestly, I have a lot more sympathy for Harvey Dent because Bruce Banner has the capacity to decide to put himself under military care or on a deserted island or on a secret base or ask Reed Richards to build a negative zone prison to keep himself in. I get that the anger management issues aren't his fault, but he definitely has the capacity to find a way to minimize his exposure and to mitigate the damage for the inevitable fall.

Also, I hate the tv series' stupid sad ending music. It makes me want to knee him in the balls.

It probably doesn't help my lack of sympathy for the character that my first real exposure to him was in Ultimate Avengers the movie. And I realize that the movie is mostly Ultimate continuity (though with a Cap that was more 616 and a Hank that...I'm not sure WHAT he was, but he wasn't Ultimate Hank...thank god) but holy hell was Bruce Banner a hateful monster in it.

You know the usual formula for a story like UA. There's a quiet, shy, misunderstood geek type and a loud, arrogant, obnoxious, snobby hotshot jerk vying for the same position. Much to everyone's surprise the misunderstood geek is chosen. The hotshot rants and raves about how he's the better choice. The geek makes a mistake but manages to redeem himself in the end and prove himself. The jerk either is converted and realizes he's wrong or he remains deluded enough to think he could have been better. The jerk isn't supposed to be RIGHT.

It's predictable and cliched and I have to give UA a bit of credit for subverting the formula.

But I have never wanted a character to fuck off and die SO HARD. And it's funny because I totally WOULD have sympathized if, while doing his own selfish and unauthorized and about to backfire experiments with the serum, he actually managed to DO THE JOB HE WAS HIRED TO DO as well. Then even if that stuff didn't work, I'd be all "Well, it was a side project."

But he didn't even DO HIS JOB. Hank was RIGHT. Hank WOULD have been the better choice. For all his ego, posturing, masculinity issues, inferiority complex, rudeness and jackassery, Hank would have DONE THE DAMN JOB. He probably would have ended up making a robot that would then try to take over fucking NASA that they'd have to stop, but he'd still have DONE THE DAMN JOB HE WAS HIRED TO DO.

I have no idea why that's such a big deal for me. I guess in the end, I have a virtual hard-on for professionalism?

It made me hate Nick Fury and Tony Stark too. (Mostly because I don't remember which of them actually hired Bruce. :-P) Because it's okay to forego the reliable and talented, if unpleasant and obnoxious hotshot for the quiet and misunderstood wild card if the wild card character DESERVES IT. But Hank was RIGHT. And no one ever acknowledged at the end that Hank was right. He WOULD have been the better choice. I honestly thought they all owed him a fucking apology.


From what Jim Smith says I may actually like the Edward Norton version of the character since they do seem to be making a point of giving Bruce a REASON not to turn himself over to the military. I still want the comic book version to get shot into space again. A hell of a lot farther this time. :-)


  • At June 24, 2008 2:21 AM, Blogger LurkerWithout said…

    To be fair to Hulk, he pretty rarely "just freaks out and attacks stuff". It was pretty well always Banner and/or Hulk wandering around, trying to avoid trouble and then someone(thing) attacks them...

    Its best not to go by anything from the Ultimates 'verse, since nearly everyone is a total tool there...

    The Shooting Hulk Into Space solution might have been a better idea if it wasn't the THIRD time his friends have gone with the banish him off the Earth bit. Though I believe when he had Strange dump him at the Crossroads of All Dimensions it was at Banner/Hulk's request...

  • At June 24, 2008 2:45 AM, Anonymous wonderfish said…

    Yes, exactly.

  • At June 24, 2008 7:46 AM, Blogger kalinara said…

    Lurkerwithout: I'm definitely willing to concede that the issues I read probably aren't the norm of the series.

    But even if it is just that Banner and/or Hulk are trying to be left alone, the sheer amount of collateral damage that appears to result is enough, I think, to show that his current methods aren't working.

    (I will grant that having Strange dump him at the crossroads is a good attempt. If I read about him deciding more often to do that sort of thing, with the method just failing, I'd probably not dislike him quite so much...maybe...)

  • At June 24, 2008 7:51 AM, Blogger LurkerWithout said…

    But is Hulk-related damage much worse than other super-brawls? And its not like Hulk is a popular "hero". Even before WWH...

    Also, PAYBACK!

  • At June 24, 2008 8:07 AM, Blogger kalinara said…

    It certainly seems to be to me. At the very least, during other superbrawls the HERO is trying his or her best to mitigate damages to the local populace. The Hulk, at least in my experience, is far less inclined to do that.

    The Hulk's always struck me more as a...force of nature than the other heroes. Indiscriminate in his rampages with almost nothing keeping him in check at all.

    For the record, I have nothing against fans of the character. It's just the reasons behind why I can't get interested in him. :-)

  • At June 24, 2008 8:48 AM, Blogger Anthony Strand said…

    Now, I'm a total DC fanboy, but one of the things that's always bothered me about Marvel is that the Hulk is a superhero.

    The Hulk (not Banner, of course, but The Hulk himself) and Solomon Grundy have essentially the exact same personality and behavior patterns. At DC, they call that a villain.

  • At June 24, 2008 9:09 AM, Blogger Patrick C said…

    I'm not a huge Hulk fan, but I feel the call to defend the guy.

    A great series was Banner! by Brian Azzarello, the whole plot basically Banner trying to kill himself to stop the damage, but Hulk not letting him.

    The reason he can't turn himself into the military is because they want to use him as a weapon, which if you trust your politicians maybe is a good idea. Just drop him in Irag and then clean up after? I don't know though.

    And I don't have the issue, but somewhere during WWH didn't it mention that Hulk actually didn't kill anyone, or a much smaller number than you would think based on the damage? I probably shouldn't even make this last point, because I'm just recalling a hazy memory that I may have even just made up.

  • At June 24, 2008 9:13 AM, Blogger Diamondrock said…

    Give anthony strand a cookie.

    On another note, regarding his walking around feeling sorry for himself... He wouldn't be a Marvel character if he didn't do *that.* I think it's in their contract. They have to spend something like 60% of their time lamenting this and that...

  • At June 24, 2008 10:01 AM, Blogger SallyP said…

    Yay for professionalism!

    It is Marvel's point of view lately, that the Hulk has NEVER ever ever killed anyone in one of his rampages, and therefore the Illuminati were just being mean to him. Personally, I find this harder to believe than that a man can be turned into a giant green guy through exposure to gamma rays, but that's just me.

  • At June 24, 2008 11:33 AM, Blogger kalinara said…

    I can buy that the Hulk never directly killed anyone and that Banner may or may not have enough subconscious control for that (though that opens up a whole other kettle of fish).

    But with ALL that collateral damage? Bridges. Cars. Buildings toppling. I simply can't believe they're all empty. Hell, if nothing else, what about the old man who comes home, sees a green monster destroying his house and strokes out?

    He would have at least some responsibility there and more for anyone actively killed in the destruction I think.

  • At June 24, 2008 12:19 PM, Anonymous Eric Grant said…

    One thing you might want to consider is that the Hulk (green, rampaging Hulk) is not a superhero, and wasn't supposed to be. That may be enough for you not to be interested, but I can see why you might think of him as one, since that's how the company markets him often.

    Granted, he has been a hero on a few occasions/eras, when Banner was in control as Hulk, and in the Avengers Adventures series, but he was much less prone to rampaging then. There's also a reason Banner mostly hangs out in the desert--less chance to hurt people if something goes wrong or Ross attacks.

    On some level he's a Marvel Monster shoehorned into a gentrifying (superheroing) universe.

    One of the things that seemed dumb about the Norton movie (which I otherwise really liked) was that at the beginning of the movie, Banner was hanging out and learning to control his rage in ONE OF THE MOST DENSELY POPULATED URBAN AREAS ON THE PLANET. Bad Banner. No cookie.

    I have no problem believing that Hulk's collateral damage is roughly equal to Superman's, in terms of property and lives, and maybe intent makes up for that on Supe's side, but maybe it doesn't

  • At June 24, 2008 12:32 PM, Blogger kalinara said…

    I think the difference between the collateral damage amount for me is that for heroes like Superman...

    Superman isn't usually the one CAUSING the collateral damage. It's usually the badguy who does it. He hits Superman into a building, possibly Superman hits HIM into another building I suppose, but in general most of the battle damage comes from the other guy. Superman himself makes a great effort to try to minimize injuries to other people, even if he doesn't succeed.

    The Hulk, though, actively causes the damage and not all of it is a self-defense-type-accident either. He does not remotely, at least in what I've read, make the effort to minimize damage and casualties. So even if the AMOUNT of damage is the same (which I'll buy since Superman has some VERY destructive villains), I don't think Superman has nearly as much individual culpability as the Hulk.

    Like you said, basically, he's a monster and not a hero. Which is why my title is actually misrepresentative. I don't hate the HULK. I'm indifferent to him. I hate Bruce Banner because I don't feel that he does enough when he's in his right mind to even try to keep the Hulk's chaos from happening. SOMETIMES he ends up willing to go the extra mile and go to the desert or get banished out of reality, or kill himself, but other times, his actions strike me as blind, self-absorbed, and too obsessed with his own supposed self-autonomy and ability to deal with the situation. That's why I hate him. :-) I do appreciate that it's comics and thus much of his behavior is dictated by the story. But that doesn't make me like him any more.

    It's irrational, but there ya go. :-)

  • At June 24, 2008 1:28 PM, Blogger tavella said…

    Ignore Ultimates and any universe touching it; in those universes he's indeed just a worthless monster.

    In 616, though, it's not like he hasn't *tried* all the options. He can't turn to the government, because they wouldn't try to protect other people from him, they'd use him as a weapon to kill people, and worse experiment on him to make more weapons -- this has been demonstrated.

    He can't kill himself (or Bruce can't) -- he's tried several times.

    He's also tried several options such as being exiled by Strange. In fact, the "Las Vegas incident" that was supposedly the last straw for him getting shot into space was caused by SHIELD. Bruce was quietly living in the Alaskan wilderness, SHIELD told him they needed him to go take out a Hydra base, he did so, got blown up by a gamma bomb and driven nuts and then the Las Vegas rampage.

  • At June 24, 2008 2:06 PM, Blogger Your Obedient Serpent said…

    Please, don't let Ultimate Avengers be your benchmark. Ultimate Hulk bears as much resemblance to the Hulk I know as Ultimate Captain Reactionary does to the genuine Sentinel of Liberty.

    I haven't read the Hulk regularly since Peter David's original run ended in the mid-1990s, so my perspective is very different.

    In those early Lee and Kirby issues, when Banner transformed more predictably every night, he set up a bunker to imprison the Hulk, while, during the day, desperately working on a cure. (At this point, he still managed to maintain a secret identity as an atomic weapons scientist with the highest security clearance.)

    Unfortunately, the Hulk sometimes managed to escape the confines of his cell -- or some Incredibly Powerful Menace would start wreaking havoc, and Banner would HAVE to unleash the Hulk, since nothing else could possibly defeat it.

    There was even a period when Banner HAD largely controlled his problem, but could induce transformations (again, to fight Even Worse Monstrosities).

    This was all early on, though. By the late '60s, the Hulk had settled into the Hulk Rut that pretty much lasted until Peter David took over the book: Banner on the run, trying to stay out of trouble, trying to avoid getting upset or scared or angry, and constantly running into supervillains and monsters.

    Note that during the '60s and '70s, the Hulk wasn't JUST a creature of rage. Getting upset would TRIGGER the transformations -- but Banner would often remain big and green for DAYS, without being in a state of constant destructive tantrum during all that time. And, of course, during all of this, he'd be trying to find a cure. In fact, he FOUND apparent cures more than once, only to immediately be confronted by a crisis that only Hulk's impossible strength could solve.

    (...okay, once, he re-dosed himself because Betty was showing interest in the newly-Gamma Charged Doc Samson.)

    He'd frequently COOPERATE with Ross and his Hulkbusters. Often, it wasn't so much that BANNER was the fugitive -- it was his alter-ego, who proved increasingly difficult to contain as his power grew over the years.

    Veering back to that not-just-rage thing, though: during this period, they always were careful to insist that Hulk always managed to avoid actually KILLING anyone. When Banner Hulked out in a city, Hulk would immediately leave "smelly, noisy place full of puny humans", with those ridiculous multi-mile leaps.

    Anyhoooooo.... Your Obedient Serpent is kinda babbling now. Suffice it to say that, up until recent years, Banner was constantly concerned with keeping the Hulk from hurting anyone and finding himself a cure.

  • At June 24, 2008 2:06 PM, Blogger Your Obedient Serpent said…

    ...and now look what you made me do.

    I went and dug up an old paper I wrote for Anthropology, and posted it up on KDDR.

  • At June 24, 2008 2:58 PM, Blogger kalinara said…

    I have no complaints. I like seeing everyone's take on the character.

    I admit, my perspective is very limited. I do respect that the character probably has tried everything at some point in the last forty years.

    I think my problem is that, I tend to stumble across the worst written runs where he doesn't seem to be trying anything at that time or making a half assed attempt at best. The character should be continuing to try every minute of every day, in my opinion, and trying more and more extreme measures probably as the previous ones fail. (Which he probably does, I acknowledge, in the OTHER issues. :-))

    Admittedly though, this is a writing quirk. But since we are talking about a fictional character, I can't really separate the really bad writing from the issues I HAVE read to see the character with any sort of unbiased perspective.

    Admittedly, if I'd first encountered Hulk/Banner by way of Tales to Astonish instead of Ultimate Avengers (which I know is not the 616 Hulk, but unfortunately does bias me.), I might well be more likely to give the character the benefit of the doubt in the face of the writing.

    I'm not going to say I'll never be converted into liking the character, but I'd have to read/see something truly phenomenal to make that leap. :-)

  • At June 24, 2008 4:04 PM, Blogger False Prophet said…

    OK, I don't think it's huge spoiler to reveal this bit about the Norton film: the military--or more accurately, "Thunderbolt" Ross--as portrayed in the current film are more destructive than the Hulk. They use armoured attack vehicles and helicopter gunships in dense urban areas! On American soil!

    I don't know how often that sort of thing happened in the comics or other adaptations of the Hulk, but in the real world, Ross surely would have been crucified and set on fire for that kind of reckless endangerment.

    Also, a little aphorism I like to use as a guide is, "It's not arrogance if you can back it up". ;-)

  • At June 24, 2008 7:30 PM, Blogger Evan Waters said…

    Hulk is an antihero more than anything else. Not really a good guy, but usually better than the people around him.

    Of course, he also crosses the line for me from "superhero" to "monster", and- well, you can't blame Godzilla for stepping on buildings, can you? It's what he does. King Kong eats people and crushes 'em. If these guys can be sympathetic, Hulk can too.

  • At June 24, 2008 11:15 PM, Blogger Dane said…

    Honestly, the Hulk has been a "meh" character for me (with the exception of Planet Hulk), but I thought the movie was very well done. Betty Ross is more than that scientist woman that can calm down the Hulk -- she's Banner's girlfriend, and she's working with him through his troubled time because that's what you do in a serious relationship.

    Banner was either working or a cure or finding ways of supressing breakouts through 99% of the movie. He knows he's a danger to others, and he takes extreme precautions to make sure his gamma irradiation doesn't hurt others.

    The Hulk is shown to only be violent when he is directly provoked, and even then you can see exhaustion on his face when he sees that he's never going to be left alone.

    My only real beef with the movie was Jim Smith mentioned: General Ross was a dick throughout the entire movie. They could have put in one scene where they try to make Ross sympathetic and I would have excused most of the stuff he pulled, but he's essentially a sociopath through the whole damn movie to amp up the "misunderstood monster" theme running through the movie.

    This movie hit so many good notes it surprised the hell out of me. I honestly think you'd like it, Kal, and I recommend you see it at matinée hours or see it on DVD. I can't comment on the comics right now, however. They got very frenetic after the lackluster ending of World War Hulk, and I lost interest over whatever publicity stunts Marvel was pulling (Who is this new X-TREME red Hulk?!).

    However, if you got money to burn, buy the hardback of Planet Hulk. It's the only complete Hulk story I own, and even thought it's a bit cliche in some areas, Hulk really comes out on his own terms in the story besides HULK SMASH. It made me really sad they used it to segue into "Hulk fights superheroes over misplaced anger." Like we haven't seen that before.

  • At June 25, 2008 2:26 PM, Blogger menshevik said…

    Speaking of collateral damage, some other heroes have been known to cause a bit more than the Hulk. Take Mr. Fantastic, who decided to save Galactus regardless of the consequences and thus became responsible for the destruction of the Skrull homeworld and any other planet the Big G subsequently ate. (To those using the "Galactus is a force of nature" argument, that does not make what Reed Richards did any better. A forest fire is also a force of nature, what he did was the moral equivalent of pouring kerosene on the embers of an almost dead blaze). But of course since this (like the planet destroyed by Dark Phoenix) only concerns space aliens, Reed did not lose a lot of sleep over this.

  • At June 28, 2008 2:45 AM, Blogger Ununnilium said…

    Well, note that in Galactus's case, the Watcher basically came up and said "you can't kill Galactus or the universe would break" so the writer (John Byrne?) could leave Reed a free conscience. But yeah, other than that...

  • At March 08, 2010 12:13 AM, Blogger Terry said…'re MY hero(and I NEVER say "DUDE")!!! The Hulk just plain sucks and is THE most overraTED character in comics!

    He just has NO charisma or motivation ANYONE can relate to but Marvel INSISTS on crowbarring him down comic book fans throats

  • At August 25, 2010 6:07 PM, Anonymous Hulk hater said…

    At kalinara:

    "You're an excuse for an anti-Hulk person, you female dog."

    At LurkerWithout:

    "What makes you so sure that everyone's a tool in the universe of the Ultimates? Are you some kind of know-it-all? You better not ruin my interest in the Ultimates."

    At Terry:

    "I'm glad that you're a Hulk hater like I am. But why in the world would you think of kalinara as your hero? She's an excuse for a Hulk hater. One of the reasons that I think so is because of her dragon-hating bigotry. And I love dragons because they're reptiles. Plus, she has an attitude problem.

    Now I'm not expecting kalinara to be a goody-two-shoes. I'm not one since I'm an anti-hero. But her way expressing of her hatred of the Hulk turns me off.

    At least, you're hatred of that green anti-hero is more tolerable to me."

  • At August 26, 2010 9:12 AM, Blogger LurkerWithout said…

    "Are you some kind of know-it-all? "

    Yes. Yes I am. Except about why you put your responses between quotation marks. Thats just weird...

  • At October 07, 2010 1:23 PM, Anonymous Generic Viagra Blog said…

    I watched the new Incredible Hulk movie and honestly I have to say I expect more from this film, due to the fact the effects were terrible and the sequence was so boring.

  • At January 02, 2012 4:38 PM, Anonymous Hulk hater said…

    LurkerWithout, the reason that I put my responses between two quotation marks is to prove that I'm responding to a certain person and not a random one. And I don't think that's weird.

    Also, it's not good for you to be a know-it-all because you could alienate other people for doing that. Besides, people don't know everything and that's how they are.

  • At March 25, 2012 9:05 PM, Anonymous Hulk hater said…

    kalinara, I'm very sorry for the nasty stuff that I typed to you. It's wrong of me to do that. Therefote, I'm sorry.

    It turns out that I was being somewhat too judgmental of you. But after coming back here and reading more of this blog, I came to admit that I'm wrong for attacking you. Can you ever forgive me?

    To prove that I'm sorry for typing negatively about and to you, I congratulate for taking the initiative to make an anti-Hulk blog. Besides, I'm fed up with all those Hulk-obsessed fanatics who think and claim that the Green Goliath is totally unbeatable. Why, they seem to shove their narrow-minded opinions down the throats of his dislikers. Shame on them for doing that.

    I'm also sorry for thinking that you hate dragons. I don't fully know what I was thinking when I first typed here.

    Good luck, my fellow Hulk hater.

  • At April 19, 2012 12:01 AM, Blogger kalinara said…

    Um. Okay. Apology accepted. :-)

  • At November 03, 2012 10:32 PM, Blogger james smith said…

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  • At November 03, 2012 10:34 PM, Blogger james smith said…

    your a fuckin dickhead. What are you some kind of superman fan boy.Its a comic book its not reality what point in that don't you understand. He tears up as much things as he wants to-thats what readers want to see. At least for all of the series excluding series that inconsistent since Joe Quesada in office, the hulk series has tried to be consistent and coherent in storylines and powerlevels which I can't say for DC comics which changes its characters each time to sell a book or get a fans reaction and interest for a huge sell.

  • At November 27, 2012 10:49 PM, Blogger kalinara said…

    Aw. You're adorable.

  • At December 19, 2012 8:20 PM, Anonymous at james smith said…

    I don't know who the hell you were typin' to but the shut the fuck up and get the fuckin' hell outta here if you dont' like what's in this blog!

    In case you haven't noticed, this is anti-Hulk blog! Not a website where you can masturbate and have sickly deluded fantasies about the Hulk being unbeatable! If I didn't known better, I'd say that you're one of those Hulk fanboys who make fucked-up claims that the Hulk can do anything without being beaten at all.

    FYI, the Green Goliath has weaknesses. For example, he was killed in The Death of the Incredible Hulk. And I like that feature 'cuz it shows the Hulk dying.

    How would you like it everyone who's different from you crammed their opinions your throat? I don't think that you'd like it.

    What you and other Hulk fans can do is fuck each other to death for all I care.

    As for you, Kalinara, I can tell that you were being sarcastic to james. But could you delete his second post like what you did to his first? After all, this is an anti-Hulk blog like I pointed out before and not for Hulk lovers.

  • At December 21, 2012 2:11 AM, Blogger kalinara said…

    I didn't delete his first post.

    Also people are entitled to their opinion. Please respect that.

  • At January 09, 2013 5:24 PM, Anonymous at james smith said…

    You may be right about james being entitled to his opinion, kalinara. But he was being disrespectful and rude. If you want people to respect other people for their opinions, then you shouldn't allow disrespectful people in this blog. Also, he ashoudl be respectful of other people's opinions.

    If I made this blog and one or more jerks came to it and typed nastily, I'd type in the same manner to him, her, or them in return and delete his, her, or their comments.


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