Amazon Space Pirate Starfire, or the Appalling Dearth in the DCU's Outer Space Setting
After I posted my Starfire post yesterday/early today, I got to thinking. You know what I find really disappointing?
The lack of really good pulp sci-fi space opera shit in the DCU.
I mean, yes, Marvel does some neat space stuff and I'm not going to complain about that, but Marvel's space setting doesn't really lend itself well to the old school "Warlord of Mars" or "Pirates of Venus" type genre. I'm not sure why, but in my opinion that kind of REALLY old school sci-fi stuff fits more with DC.
Hell, I think Ragnell has a post somewhere about how the GLC pretty much IS the Lensmen. Only awesomer, naturally.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I LOVE the GLC with every little cell in my body. But that (and spinoffs) are pretty much IT when it comes to space DCU.
But considering that we have like 300 Earth based heroes all of whom are perfectly capable of fronting good stories with a distinct style and flavor from one another without confusion, why don't we have more out in the vastness of space? (I'm not counting that ill-fated Darkstar thing with John Stewart and Donna Troy back in the nineties. Though, it was a good attempt!)
Where are the Omega Men? Where did Adam Strange go? Why did everything just kind of fizzle after the Rann-Thanagar War and 52?
And we've got characters that could suit this kind of stuff already. I mean, granted, for all the Edgar Rice Burroughs nods in his origin, J'onn Jonnz is pretty Earth based. But what about Starfire?
How many teams has she been shunted to lately? When really, wouldn't she be AWESOME flying around, kicking the crud out of pirates of the Oort Cloud, rescuing the well-oiled princes of Betelgeuse V, and wrecking the SHIT out of some thinly veiled parody of Gor?
Especially with a space battleaxe. If I do no other thing for the comic book universe, I swear at some point before I die, I will see Starfire carrying a space battleaxe.
But these really aren't the sort of story that flows naturally with the Corps, anymore than an imp from another universe really fits a Batman story. But that doesn't mean that it wouldn't rock hard.
And there's so much depth to plunge! We've got E.E. "Doc" Smith (kinda), we could have Edgar Rice Burroughs (ish), what about something inspired by Perry Rhodan? Immortal space marines with adventures spanning millenia? I could totally go for something like that. Hee, the clashes with the Green Lantern Corps ALONE!
Obviously, we probably couldn't get the actual property, but that doesn't mean we can't take inspiration where we can find it! And that entire era is just blooming with it!
The original inspirational material has a lot of problems, of course. Racism and sexism especially. But we can take the good and fun parts from the genre and leave the rest. It could be a blast!
There is absolutely no reason for the DCU's space setting to be so empty! Please, DC, consider filling some of it up!
The lack of really good pulp sci-fi space opera shit in the DCU.
I mean, yes, Marvel does some neat space stuff and I'm not going to complain about that, but Marvel's space setting doesn't really lend itself well to the old school "Warlord of Mars" or "Pirates of Venus" type genre. I'm not sure why, but in my opinion that kind of REALLY old school sci-fi stuff fits more with DC.
Hell, I think Ragnell has a post somewhere about how the GLC pretty much IS the Lensmen. Only awesomer, naturally.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I LOVE the GLC with every little cell in my body. But that (and spinoffs) are pretty much IT when it comes to space DCU.
But considering that we have like 300 Earth based heroes all of whom are perfectly capable of fronting good stories with a distinct style and flavor from one another without confusion, why don't we have more out in the vastness of space? (I'm not counting that ill-fated Darkstar thing with John Stewart and Donna Troy back in the nineties. Though, it was a good attempt!)
Where are the Omega Men? Where did Adam Strange go? Why did everything just kind of fizzle after the Rann-Thanagar War and 52?
And we've got characters that could suit this kind of stuff already. I mean, granted, for all the Edgar Rice Burroughs nods in his origin, J'onn Jonnz is pretty Earth based. But what about Starfire?
How many teams has she been shunted to lately? When really, wouldn't she be AWESOME flying around, kicking the crud out of pirates of the Oort Cloud, rescuing the well-oiled princes of Betelgeuse V, and wrecking the SHIT out of some thinly veiled parody of Gor?
Especially with a space battleaxe. If I do no other thing for the comic book universe, I swear at some point before I die, I will see Starfire carrying a space battleaxe.
But these really aren't the sort of story that flows naturally with the Corps, anymore than an imp from another universe really fits a Batman story. But that doesn't mean that it wouldn't rock hard.
And there's so much depth to plunge! We've got E.E. "Doc" Smith (kinda), we could have Edgar Rice Burroughs (ish), what about something inspired by Perry Rhodan? Immortal space marines with adventures spanning millenia? I could totally go for something like that. Hee, the clashes with the Green Lantern Corps ALONE!
Obviously, we probably couldn't get the actual property, but that doesn't mean we can't take inspiration where we can find it! And that entire era is just blooming with it!
The original inspirational material has a lot of problems, of course. Racism and sexism especially. But we can take the good and fun parts from the genre and leave the rest. It could be a blast!
There is absolutely no reason for the DCU's space setting to be so empty! Please, DC, consider filling some of it up!
7 Comments:
At October 12, 2010 3:34 AM, LurkerWithout said…
I'd say the market barely supports one non-GL themed space book for DC in R.E.B.E.L.S. I'm not even sure how much longer it will support two GL books (much less the 3rd they plan to add). Hell even the Legion can't sell a solo book right now. So the odds of Adam Strange, the Omega Men or (my personal wish title) Untold Tales of Space Cabbie are all pretty slim...
Though I think the next volume for the Starman Omnibusi that comes out this month should be the "Stars My Destination" arc. So if you have a deep need for DC space opera you could read that. Or the wonderful Paul Pope Adam Strange story from Wednesday Comics...
At October 12, 2010 5:09 AM, kalinara said…
Yeah, notice how Stars My Destination doesn't actually involve any of the pulp sci-fi era stuff I'm actually talking about in this post? (It's not particularly current either.)
Not to mention how ONE WC story (whether or not it actually fits my theme) isn't really an answer to my general complaint (read: the current under-utilization of DC's space setting) either.
Thanks though! :-)
At October 12, 2010 6:06 AM, Eyz said…
A new on-going Adam Strange book would be neat. :P
'nuff said!
At October 12, 2010 4:52 PM, doron said…
Rebels is going relatively strong, I don't it is in danger of being cancelled. It is also very enjoyable. Starfire and Adam Strange have joined the team. The Legion have their own book, Adventure Comics, and now maybe a third one coming next year,
At October 12, 2010 5:01 PM, kalinara said…
I admit, I completely forgot about REBELS when writing this post. :-)
Ideally, I'd love to see Rebels and Legion continue, with additional solo type comics with members i.e. ERB-style Starfire. :-) Or Adam Strange.
If Batman can be in the Justice League and his own comic, then other characters should get to do it too! :-)
At October 13, 2010 3:58 AM, Eyz said…
...But their will be two Batmen now! :'3
Anyway, doesn't explain the 10+ books he appears in XD
At October 13, 2010 2:12 PM, Anonymous said…
Just to pick on one throwaway line from your post, Starfire is not the one to wreck a thinly-veiled Gor parody; I think that'd make a far more kick-ass Wonder Woman storyline, precisely because of her roots in similar places. But I'd love to see Kory, Dinah, Fire, and Ice come along.
-- Jack of Spades
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