Wonder Woman complaints that make me giggle a lot.
Okay, you ever read critiques of comics by people you respect and out of the blue they say something that really makes you scratch your head, despite how much you generally admire their opinions?
Today I read someone complain that one of the problems with the Nemesis and Wonder Woman relationship is that it's "too quick".
...
You know, on one level I DO understand the complaint and I DO wish the relationship had a bit more fleshing out that wasn't written by Jodi Picoult, but...
This is the character that traditionally, before the crisis, yoinked a hot blond pilot from the ocean and decided to follow him off the only place she'd ever known because, I dunno, she liked his ass? (To be fair, our boy Steve DOES have a nice ass.)
All things considered, by pre-Crisis Diana standards, our Diana is moving SLOW. She's actually known him for more than a month!
It's kind of like the complaint that Hippolyta being so gung-ho about Diana having babies is suddenly out of character.
Really?
Really?
The woman who wanted a baby so much that the Goddesses made the first baby any Amazon had seen for THOUSANDS of years out of CLAY just to shut her up...
I couldn't IMAGINE where the gung-ho baby-mania characterization comes from, really. :-)
Sorry guys and gals, I love ya, but this is where our opinions must part ways. Heh.
Today I read someone complain that one of the problems with the Nemesis and Wonder Woman relationship is that it's "too quick".
...
You know, on one level I DO understand the complaint and I DO wish the relationship had a bit more fleshing out that wasn't written by Jodi Picoult, but...
This is the character that traditionally, before the crisis, yoinked a hot blond pilot from the ocean and decided to follow him off the only place she'd ever known because, I dunno, she liked his ass? (To be fair, our boy Steve DOES have a nice ass.)
All things considered, by pre-Crisis Diana standards, our Diana is moving SLOW. She's actually known him for more than a month!
It's kind of like the complaint that Hippolyta being so gung-ho about Diana having babies is suddenly out of character.
Really?
Really?
The woman who wanted a baby so much that the Goddesses made the first baby any Amazon had seen for THOUSANDS of years out of CLAY just to shut her up...
I couldn't IMAGINE where the gung-ho baby-mania characterization comes from, really. :-)
Sorry guys and gals, I love ya, but this is where our opinions must part ways. Heh.
posted by kalinara @ 3:49 AM
6 Comments:
At September 18, 2008 9:11 AM,
Robert Forest said…
I LOVE WONDER WOMAN! Funny and inspired post!
At September 18, 2008 10:30 AM,
SallyP said…
Frankly, I thought the whole bit about Hippolyta and the babies was inspired. Of COURSE she wants babies...and lots of 'em1 She's got an entire island to populate! Plus, I think she just likes babies.
Nemesis and Diana's courtship has actually been pretty slow-paced all things considered.
At September 18, 2008 11:42 AM,
Ragtime said…
I think whether it is happening too quickly or too slowly depends a lot on how you are counting.
On the one hand, it is spread out over a few years worth of issues, but on the other it doesn't actually seem like they are spending a lot of time together (either on panel or off).
"Let's start dating!" in the hospital quickly turns into, "Gotta go save the Khunds" or "Gotta go lose and regain my soul to a demon in an alternate reality."
If you have been in a relationship for two years, but it's a long distance relationship and you've only been in the same room for four days during that time, is it "too quick" or "too slow" when you start talking about having babies?
I actually agree with you, but I don't really find the criticism that silly.
At September 18, 2008 11:45 AM,
Jer said…
Actually, on a re-read, I think my problem with Hippolyta and the "Babies Babies Babies" comment is more a stylistic one than a character one. It's not the desire that's out of character, it's the way she says it. On reflection if she'd said something with the same sentiment but bit more majestically and a little less jokingly I might not have even given it a second thought.
As far as the relationship goes - it's been building up for 20+ issues. Picoult's issues were horrible sure, but timewise this isn't all that fast for a comic book relationship. Looking around it seems like a lot of the complaints boil down to folks not liking the Wonder Woman/Nemesis relationship at all and trying to find things to justify their dislike of it.
(And if the Wonder Woman team hadn't dropped the ball with the whole "One Year Later" jump, they could have set up a whole year's worth of time for the relationship to grow "off camera". But they dropped the ball so just roll with it.)
At September 18, 2008 3:03 PM,
Zaratustra said…
Yeeeeah! Babies everywheeeere!
At September 21, 2008 6:29 PM,
Scott (The Mad Thinker) Anderson said…
You are the most brilliant one ever.
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