So...Hawk/Dove?
You know, it's occurred to me, I don't really "get" Hawk and Dove. Mostly, admittedly, because I've read damn little with them (either version).
I figure they were supposed to be representative of pro-war/anti-war sorts, and there's something involving Lords of Order and Chaos, but ultimately I'm lost.
It seems like a lot of folk really care about the characters, considering how passionate many folks still seem to be about the whole Monarch/Extant thing.
So I'm curious about them, and I'm hoping that maybe some Hawk/Dove fans out there might be willing to recommend some storylines or issues to help me better appreciate the characters.
Any advice?
I figure they were supposed to be representative of pro-war/anti-war sorts, and there's something involving Lords of Order and Chaos, but ultimately I'm lost.
It seems like a lot of folk really care about the characters, considering how passionate many folks still seem to be about the whole Monarch/Extant thing.
So I'm curious about them, and I'm hoping that maybe some Hawk/Dove fans out there might be willing to recommend some storylines or issues to help me better appreciate the characters.
Any advice?
posted by kalinara @ 6:31 AM
8 Comments:
At October 23, 2007 7:21 AM,
Mr. Bretterson said…
Maybe watch the JLU episode? They were voiced by the Wonder Years brothers... It could be better (little hokey), but it's a nice concept. And I'm more sad Dove (Don Hall) wasn't ever really mourned like the others killed during the first Crisis... Don't see a lot of actually pacifist heroes. They were sort of a fraternal Xena/Gabrielle sorta deal, I suppose. Actually all Wonder Woman-centric episodes of that show were pretty much Xena analogues...
At October 23, 2007 8:59 AM,
Patrick C said…
You should check out www.politedissent.com Dr. Scott does a good job of taking us through the careers of Hawk and Dove.
At October 23, 2007 9:05 AM,
Rich said…
I am the one person alive who quite liked the version of Hawk and Dove that had a female army Hawk and a male rocker Dove. Yep, that was me.
I like the idea of H&D, I'm just not sure that they've ever been utilised well.
Except for the female army/male rocker version of course. Pure awesome. Seriously.
At October 23, 2007 9:51 AM,
Anonymous said…
If memory serves,they were mostly a 60's sort of thing...you know,which is better for conflict resolution,that whole deal.
At October 23, 2007 10:21 AM,
Rob S. said…
The only stories I've ever really liked them in were when they were guest-starring in the Titans book in the 60s. Otherwise, meh. I was honestly surprised when you wrote that there are a lot of Hawk and Dove fans -- I though t "That can't be true...can it?"
At October 23, 2007 12:56 PM,
Seth T. Hahne said…
I loved the late '80s Hawk and Dove that featured Hank Hall and Dawn Granger. They were less a pro-war/pro-peace thing than a just plain fun exploration of order, chaos, and the mixing of the two. Hawk and Dove were the experiment of T’Charr and Teratraya, one a Lord of Order and the other a Lord of Chaos, who had fallen in love.
Their experiment, if memory serves, was to see how well chaos and order could co-exist - and eventually, they intended Hank and Dawn to procreate, bringing into existence a order/chaos hybrid. Or something. All I know is that it was all a lot of fun and DC killed it with that whole stupid Monarch thing.
So I guess that I'd recommend the Hawk and Dove series from the late '80s (the limited with insane Liefeld art and then the better ongoing - both written by the Kesels).
At October 23, 2007 9:56 PM,
Anonymous said…
I wonder...since 911,how would these two deal with The Current Situation?
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