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Monday, June 18, 2007

Okay! I've drunk the koolaid!

Darnit DC! And Sally! You're making me all enthusiastic for the Dinah and Ollie wedding!

I don't even like the couple!

But now I'm all "Ooo! Will they have a traditional wedding with a wedding party and everything?"

Now I'm going "Ooo, Barbara and Helena would be perfect bridesmaids!" and "Would Hal or Roy make a better best man?" (For the record, my vote's Hal. He'll throw a better bachelor party. Roy should be a groomsman definitely though!)

Would Lian and Sin be flower girls?

Dinah's dress had better be pretty! And will the men of the JLA actually wear suits? Or will they be all tacky in their costumes? I always liked how Guy Gardner actually wore a suit for Hal's funeral. Or Sand wearing one for Wes's. Important events should require dressing up, damnit! This has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I think men in suits are really really sexy.

...okay. Maybe that factors in a little.

...okay. Maybe it's the root behind this whole mini-rant. I'm shallow!

Now I'm wondering about flowers and decorations and music and... Ye cats, I'm such a girl!

I just really like celebrations. And comics can get so dark and sad sometimes that it's really nice to just have some occasion to be happy!

...heh, I can't wait to see what's gonna fuck this up.


  • At June 18, 2007 9:30 AM, Blogger Thom said…

    You have got to love that cover with him in costume and her in white lingerie-or is that just a white version of her costume?) on a cake.

  • At June 18, 2007 10:39 AM, Blogger Ragtime said…

    Yuck. No Kool-Aid for me.

    Not quite as squicky as the thought of Hippolyte and Hercules getting together again, but really now.

    There are two possibilities:

    1. Ollie cheats on Dinah after they get married, and it's a big disaster, and we're all "I told you so." And that would suck.


    2. Ollie keeps his pants zipped post-marriage and loses at least half of what makes him an interesting character.

    Lose/lose I say.

  • At June 18, 2007 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ollie keeps his pants zipped post-marriage and loses at least half of what makes him an interesting character.

    Historically it's Dinah who tends to get turned into an untrue-to-character wuss (and often a whiner) in that particular relationship. But while I hope Ollie keeps his pants zipped, I wouldn't like to see him lose his passion and tendency to go off half cocked and all his generally annoying tendencies (including a fair dollop of sexist attitudes) through marriage, either.

    From what I've seen so far (the sex marathon issue), they're going the "turn Dinah into mindless Ollie idolizing zombie", which is a variation on the usual route when they're together and being mishandled. *sigh*

  • At June 18, 2007 11:49 AM, Blogger SallyP said…

    Look, it CAN'T be worse than Donna Troy and Terry Long! (gags a little bit) Besides, I'm such a sucker for a little romance. It's just nice to be having a Wedding instead of a Funeral for a change.

    And absolutely, I want dresses, tuxes and suits. NO costumes! This is a wedding, not a Halloween party or JLA meeting.

    But whatever they do, DON'T let Hal be in charge of the Ring! He has enough trouble keeping track of his own!

  • At June 18, 2007 12:14 PM, Blogger Rob S. said…

    I don't think Ollie's randiness is what makes him an interesting character at all. I think it's as Shilohmm said - his brashness, his impulsiveness, and the conflict between his liberal social attitudes and his own chauvanistic tendencies. More than enough there to keep me interested without bed-hopping (which always seemed terribly OUT of character to me, since I was introduced to him as the faithful boyfriend of Canary in the 70s).

  • At June 18, 2007 12:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You have got to love that cover with him in costume and her in white lingerie-or is that just a white version of her costume?)

    It's a white version of her costume.

    Though technically speaking, since her costume is a leather onesie with fishnets... isn't she ALWAYS in lingere?

    I was worried about the image at first because of the cheese-cake pose and the focus on the butt (the arrow literally pointing to it) but then realized that...

    1) I need to lighten up somewhat and just accept that sometimes a goofy cover is a goofy cover.
    2) It's a very balanced picture and it actually shows Ollie and Dinah as equals, albeit it ironically.

    NOTE: Dinah is carrying Ollie (ah... artistic metaphor!) while Ollie, based on the arrow with the rope on it has been trying to "catch" Dinah. But who is the one being slung over the should like a hunted animal? ;)

    Mind you, I'm not hopeful about the new series given that Winick is still writing it... especially after Green Arrow #75 ... but with McDuffie and Torres on board, I can at least hope that the wedding will be fun.

  • At June 18, 2007 12:59 PM, Blogger Matthew E said…

    Hal can be trusted with the ring. There's no problem there.

    Unless he has to fly to get to the ceremony, in which case he will leave it at home.

  • At June 18, 2007 1:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    bleh...I hate the very thought of this for two very simple reasons:

    1) This means Winick gets first-rights to BC...I can only imagine what kind of pseudo-STD or college lesbian experimentation this will retcon into her history...but apart from that...Winick has basically (in the last 3 issues I read) turned her into a vapid Valley girl who idolizes Ollie and ignores Sin for (based on the issues) 48+ hours because she just has to have sex for that long!!

    and 2) Ollie WILL cheat on Dinah. It may not happen now, it may not happen for the next couple of years. But it will happen. The marriage will dissolve. And we will have the DCU Giant Man/Wasp. Only instead of the hitting, it'll be the cheating...but you get the idea. Either way...bah...I don't want anything to do with this. Will probably read the Wedding Planner and the JLA special (McDuffie! Torres!) but I highly doubt I'll be reading the actual series on a regular basis.

  • At June 18, 2007 7:00 PM, Blogger GiantKillerMantis said…

    I'm agin it! Ollie don't deserve her. These books won't be on my list.

  • At June 18, 2007 7:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Crap. I must have forgotten to take my snobby pills today, because I don't hate this either. At least, I don't hate the idea of Dinah and Ollie getting married. Any chance of their marriage/relationship being written intelligently? No? Meh.

    What I do have blazing hate for, though, is the Vanishing Personality troupe where the female character half of the couple suddenly has no other attributes other then mindless devotion and service to the male character half. Ain't how real marriages work. And I always feel like I'm reading some icky private authorial fantasy. Like that's *his* (always a 'he' for this particular bad habit, alas) idea of what a perfect marriage would be. His wife just becomes his stepfordbot! And you know.. ew. EW.

    There were hints of stepfordness in the marathon smex issue. But I don't hate the couple on principle. I think it possibly *could* be written well (though, I have to admit, so far it's being written like crap.)

    $20 says they get married with guests and/or best men in their spandex. Didn't people show up at the BP/Storm wedding in spandex? Dude, sucker bet.

  • At June 18, 2007 9:03 PM, Blogger ShellyS said…

    When written well, Ollie and Dinah were always entertaining, IMO. I'm looking forward to this.

    I also would love to see Lian and Sin meet.

  • At June 18, 2007 9:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hal has got to be Best Man. I mean, when you've killed a guy, the least you can do is make him your Best Man.

  • At June 19, 2007 12:19 PM, Blogger Timothy Liebe said…

    Yeah, I never bought the "catting around" Ollie either. Tammy and I used to love GA&BC b/c it was one of the few comics about a superhero romantic relationship that worked - unlike, say, Peter and MJ, which was dysfunctional with a capital "dys" before JMS wrote it. He may be brash, reckless and sometimes thoughtless (as idealists often are), but he adored her too much to willingly cheat on her.

    Dinah was always the more mature partner, for all she was signficantly younger than him, so her abruptly losing it over Shado having sex w/him while he was injured and not in full possession of his mental capabilities struck me as a sour note. Her building irritation over his fiscal irresponsibility made a bit more sense, but I doubt she'd have left him over it - put him on an allowance, maybe, but not left him. The whole breakup arc felt more like Editorial Mandate than organic character development to me.

    Of course, I've long been prejudiced in Oliver Queen's favor, since he not only explicitly told President GW Bush off, he manhandled the dried-up old patrician hypocrite and shoved him into an American flag! Since I've loathed the Bushes since before it was fashionable, that made me smile blissfully for days.... :) :) :)

    If we could get back to THAT Ollie & Dinah, or even the Dinah of Gail Simone's BoP run, I'd be delighted. But so many writers have either made Ollie a dick, or Dinah a dishrag, that I'm not holding out much hope for this marriage unless Gail somehow manages to take it over,

    Tim Liebe
    Dreaded Spouse-Creature of Tamora Pierce
    - and co-writer of Marvel's White Tiger comic - TBP out Aug. 8

  • At June 19, 2007 12:52 PM, Blogger Rob S. said…

    He told off the Shrub? When was that?


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