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Tuesday, October 23, 2007


You know, it's occurred to me, I don't really "get" Hawk and Dove. Mostly, admittedly, because I've read damn little with them (either version).

I figure they were supposed to be representative of pro-war/anti-war sorts, and there's something involving Lords of Order and Chaos, but ultimately I'm lost.

It seems like a lot of folk really care about the characters, considering how passionate many folks still seem to be about the whole Monarch/Extant thing.

So I'm curious about them, and I'm hoping that maybe some Hawk/Dove fans out there might be willing to recommend some storylines or issues to help me better appreciate the characters.

Any advice?


  • At October 23, 2007 7:21 AM, Blogger Mr. Bretterson said…

    Maybe watch the JLU episode? They were voiced by the Wonder Years brothers... It could be better (little hokey), but it's a nice concept. And I'm more sad Dove (Don Hall) wasn't ever really mourned like the others killed during the first Crisis... Don't see a lot of actually pacifist heroes. They were sort of a fraternal Xena/Gabrielle sorta deal, I suppose. Actually all Wonder Woman-centric episodes of that show were pretty much Xena analogues...

  • At October 23, 2007 8:59 AM, Blogger Patrick C said…

    You should check out Dr. Scott does a good job of taking us through the careers of Hawk and Dove.

  • At October 23, 2007 9:05 AM, Blogger Rich said…

    I am the one person alive who quite liked the version of Hawk and Dove that had a female army Hawk and a male rocker Dove. Yep, that was me.

    I like the idea of H&D, I'm just not sure that they've ever been utilised well.

    Except for the female army/male rocker version of course. Pure awesome. Seriously.

  • At October 23, 2007 9:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    If memory serves,they were mostly a 60's sort of know,which is better for conflict resolution,that whole deal.

  • At October 23, 2007 10:21 AM, Blogger Rob S. said…

    The only stories I've ever really liked them in were when they were guest-starring in the Titans book in the 60s. Otherwise, meh. I was honestly surprised when you wrote that there are a lot of Hawk and Dove fans -- I though t "That can't be true...can it?"

  • At October 23, 2007 12:56 PM, Blogger Seth T. Hahne said…

    I loved the late '80s Hawk and Dove that featured Hank Hall and Dawn Granger. They were less a pro-war/pro-peace thing than a just plain fun exploration of order, chaos, and the mixing of the two. Hawk and Dove were the experiment of T’Charr and Teratraya, one a Lord of Order and the other a Lord of Chaos, who had fallen in love.

    Their experiment, if memory serves, was to see how well chaos and order could co-exist - and eventually, they intended Hank and Dawn to procreate, bringing into existence a order/chaos hybrid. Or something. All I know is that it was all a lot of fun and DC killed it with that whole stupid Monarch thing.

    So I guess that I'd recommend the Hawk and Dove series from the late '80s (the limited with insane Liefeld art and then the better ongoing - both written by the Kesels).

  • At October 23, 2007 9:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I wonder...since 911,how would these two deal with The Current Situation?

  • At August 31, 2011 10:45 PM, Anonymous Jerald said…

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